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R.I.P. "Angry Harry," 64, in Feb 2016 (UK men's rights activist [MRA] & psychologist
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l***@yahoo.com
2016-06-11 16:09:11 UTC
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Just found out, on Youtube. Many consider him to be the first online MRA.


http://www.angryharry.com/Feminism-And-Falling-Birth-Rates.htm

(here, he seems to think that falling birth rates are nothing but terrible - and makes it sound almost as if men REALLY want babies and women don't. Really?)




http://angryharry.com/
(his site)

http://www.angryharry.com/notefeminismforstudents.htm

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/4exaxo/angry_harry_who_rules_over_us/
(four-part podcast)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22angry+harry%22
(a few interviews and tributes)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/angry-harry-passes-away/

First paragraphs:


By Paul Elam

Online activism legend Angry Harry has passed away at the age of 64. According to family sources, he passed away suddenly and unexpectedly on February 24, 2016. He died of natural causes.

Harry was the undisputed father of using the internet to further a better reasoned and compassionate view of the issues faced by men and boys, and in challenging the inconsistencies and falsehoods of the feminist narrative.

He founded the website angryharry.com and worked single-handedly, inspiring so many others to find their courage to speak to the same issues...

(snip)

http://www.rockingphilosophy.com/2013/02/now-even-angry-harry-is-wrong.html
(mildly amusing MRA article about Angry Harry's clashes with A Voice for Men)

First paragraph:

"This is not the post I originally had in mind to write, but frankly, right now I’m angry, which is very apt, because the person I am going to support is Angry Harry, someone that even Paul Elam has previously called the father of men’s rights. It’s no secret to many that I’ve had my issues with members of the Men’s Movement, but to now see that even a prominent individual like Angry Harry is coming under fire when pointing out the shortcomings of what A Voice for Men now considers acceptable editorial policy, shows that it’s growing impossible to deny that the Men’s Movement has reached a schism..."

One quote of his listed underneath (I found it at AVfM as well, at the link within)

Angry Harry: "Of interest perhaps: Many years ago I actually came across two women who had had incestuous relations with their sons.

"In both cases, the situation was this.

"The sons had always been emotionally 'distant' from their mothers and from others. Perhaps they were slightly autistic or something. I can't remember.

"And these two mothers were desperate to arouse some kind of positive emotional feelings in them. Trying to "wake them up" emotionally. Trying to make them feel positive towards them - as mothers - and towards other people.

"They did not want their sons to be emotionally dead zones.

"And so they initiated sex in the hope that this would spark some kind of loving responses in their sons.

"Well, in both cases, this did not work.

"But can you blame them for trying?"

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2011/08/02/angry-harry-violence-is-justified-but-dont-blame-us-for-it/
(anti-MRA website by David Futrelle - often funny - this article talks about Angry Harry's blaming the massacre in Norway on the LEFT wing, not the right, as the media claimed)

Angry Harry: "MRAs need to get to grips with this type of situation because it won’t be long before they are being blamed for something or other – perhaps a family court judge being murdered."

David Futrelle: "Why might this be a particularly sensitive issue for Harry? Perhaps because in another posting of his, he offered a justification for doing just that — murdering family court justices and those involved in enforcing their decisions."

Angry Harry: "To put it bluntly: If someone is taking away your home and your children then I think that you are quite justified in behaving violently towards them."

BTW, when George Sodini opened fire on a gym full of strangers in 2009, "killing three and leaving behind an online diatribe journaling his sense of rejection by millions of desirable women," Harry posted his diary on his website. More on that here:

http://womenasmothers.blogspot.com/2009/11/well-this-is-no-surprise.html

Actually, that part is near the bottom of the shortish article. Just after that paragraph, MRA Glenn Sacks calls Harry "an idiot." Most of the page is taken up by the comments. Especially those by MRA Polish Knight, who got kicked off of Amy Alkon's blog years ago.

And here are three nasty (if not necessarily unfair) posts about him, including a recent one.

https://mancheeze.wordpress.com/tag/angry-harry/

And, I just found this interview bit:

K (a woman): Are men unable to merely look and enjoy the view without having to have sex with her?

Angry Harry: Another stupid question. And so...

Many men do not enjoy the view. They do not like being sexually harassed. And my guess – and it is only a guess – is that in some instances where strangers rape provocatively-dressed women, they are doing so in order to teach them a lesson of some sort. They are saying, “Stop fu#cking around with my private and personal emotions.” They are saying, “I see. So you want to turn me on without my permission, eh? Then let’s see how you like it.”

(end)


As I've said elsewhere, you don't see cops going on the local TV news just before a big holiday weekend to tell SOBER drivers to stay off the road. Even though it might well be a very good idea for sober people not to drive. And there are very good reasons why they talk about how they, the cops, are going to be on the prowl for drunk drivers. (For one thing, they don't want drunk drivers to think there aren't enough cops to catch them - or that there won't be any sober drivers to hit.)

Not to mention that, as many reporters who have been to Egypt will tell you, it doesn't matter how modestly a woman is dressed there - if she isn't with a man in public, she's fair game for serious harassment or worse and the men there would likely get angry if people tried to argue that she isn't fair game.


Lenona.
Lenona
2024-02-03 21:43:52 UTC
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Post by l***@yahoo.com
Just found out, on Youtube. Many consider him to be the first online MRA.
http://www.angryharry.com/Feminism-And-Falling-Birth-Rates.htm
(here, he seems to think that falling birth rates are nothing but terrible - and makes it sound almost as if men REALLY want babies and women don't. Really?)
I know it's silly to return to this, but it occurred to me that maybe it MIGHT make sense to say that men are the ones who want babies these days.

IF, that is, we're including all those men who SAY they want kids but wouldn't dream of changing a diaper or saying "no" to them.

Not to mention all those men who don't want to SUPPORT their kids....
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